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Blues Talk TV - Episode 384

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This week on Blues Talk we take a look back at Leinster's loss to La Rochelle in the Champions Cup, forward to the trip to Connacht in the Rainbow Cup and discuss the Lions squad selection for the tour to South Africa

I was the expedition of Bruce and JohnDave Myself. I look back over. That's just disappointing results. Lastweekend. Allier European action of course, have a look at the line,selections and are gain against connect in a Rainbow Cup. So boys verydisappointing results. Thirty two, twenty three over an Larache, you know still haven't, really had towear a Lin shirt today, just to try and cheer myself up. That's a bet. I am. I wore the shirt actually because Ispoke up this morning and the other way you get this day thirteenyears ago, and this day thirteen years ago I was wearing this t shirt and whenI ope my jaw was the first thing in my drawer has been washed. It still hasn'tbeen much thirteen years, I'm doing it yeah the game was a massof disappointment where I was so hoping to be in here. First in our five starfinal against to day after seeing the results on the Saturday, I just Brady, I think we all predicted the last erway. Last week we were all feel fairly confident. Whatever day that was whensoThursday last week and Patty Power of decided to sponsor this show now a tips. The maawe made our view. Ourviewer or viewer dropped a monkey on US and pay powers. Profits went through theroof yeah, we were, we were going out, lookwe'd, probably hook up with Ivan. He atis crowd yeah. It was very disappointing. Better team on today that's to be said,like they looked better from most of the game. We were too bad in the firsthalf, but you know there. Some goodperformances in Er team cover was good and Jack. CONAN and probably see, waselected for the line, so they would probably got on to live as well, but onyou know the record: a pincher as usual, gretty good push they. They were justan entertainment. The day they were more up for it. They were were even when I a they're better preparedwhen they in a mon sense of they made sad a lot better than than we did. You know it wouldn't what was it seven?Six? We we lost to the yellow card by our point. As far as e e want, to witwitch now ours or theirs, very one to pay point there, yeah excuse me yeah.We won there yellow carried by a point which is a narrow enough margin. Nowother cars don't make as much difference these days. It seemed to meas they used to but haven't said that you know you would have expected us tobe able to pull pull clear. They diday found it difficult to get across orToyland for a long long time, but they kept it taking over with the fightright. I hate to refer to rug on this, but it's kind of like what he wouldhave done, keeping this gobard taking over. So you know fair play an they did. Youknow you go, have no complaints whatsoever about referees or in fact Ihatin the first time again another revere. If anything was favoring us. You know we seem to get a real with thegrain a little bit early on a didn't continue for the game. Writing but you know fair place better team on theday and must do better in the COO canter. ButJohn You mentioned there: They kept a scoreboard ticking over. We kept givingthem penalties in CACABE areas not too dissimilar to what Exeter did to us. Weplayed into their hands now whether that was you know, shoot what that wasUS making dull mistakes like, for example, James Low. You know notrolling away keeping as floor on the ball but Anson how much he protests. Isit his innocence? That's what the referee self or you have players likeJames Ryn, taking the ball into contact and no one, no one there to help himclean out the ball, quick quickly enough and he gets turned over andpenalized under our posts. You know like that's, that's actually an example. Iwas going to use because one of the for me went toobviously wasn't the turning point. I was a turning point because to were alot of varies, we lost in, and this wasn't so well, but when we lost Rodickwe lost an awful lot of our power at the break, and that was one of the firstbreakdowns. After that, he went, as you say, Ryan picked and went, and he hadtoner with him to clear out and God blessed hearder, but he's not going toget down that low and once once to the...

...point off, we had nothing at thebreakdown. I thought I said if ye at the time. I thought it was a mistakebringing on mine bard, not because Rambad isn't a good player. He is, butbecause that's not his game he's not him he's not. You know that plastical blindside, flanker who's, going to clear out a rock and we got destroyed at thebreakdown I mean we have to Stra against monster at the bright down.With those reasons for that we got destroyed again this week. That's twoweeks in a row like for different reasons and were different selections,but we did get absolutely monster at the breakdown. With the result that Imean we were unable to stop them doinganything. They wanted to do at the break that when they had the ball,because we weren't able to slow them down not particularly and theydestroyed us on turnovers, we weren't able to slow me down. Weended up having the Silk Tackled, with the result that their big guys arerunning ouse with momentum. Instead of having to take the ball standing oreven stepping back, I mean for a the talk about. Will Skelton and pat hisface the prop Antonio, the tell yeah, I was gonna,say the go tad name. You know he tonio they're, big guys and their powerfulguys, but they're not explosive, not like, say Billy Ven Vena Pole is Ben,even a pal as very explosive guy. You could get to him before he starts andhe's still going to burst. Yet those guys need to be a need, a bit of goingto think get movin and we weren't able to put them on the back foot at all.They were able to trumble up and down in their lanes. We never stressed, andwe never stressed their fitness. We never stressed hour tactics, it was inthe end. They were comfortable enough yeah, that's a big point. I think wesaid it. Larst week we were supposedly moving the mared andkeep in the game flow. We didn't know that you know we gave plenty oopportunity to rest. I like, like I said about Lily Antonio and wills, go.They can kill it by lying up against you, O o e Eh back half backs just didn't playclever rubber. You know the nine continually kicked away, possessionthat made. No, that made no difference, it was just kicking it and hoping itand then I thought, like you know, was burned still very deep and when he did standdeep, he took the ball out just trundled the ball on or we never sawhim kick he's the like his best attribute as a good player, as iskicking the accuracy of this. We didn't try like, for example, there was somesun was in the in the eyes of their winger. He turned his back and one kickoff that should have been exploited, constit continually during the game.When we, when we were defending that corner, they kicked it into our andLarmer. At doubt would has pretty well and Conan doubtful us and not just fromKicka from them making cross field kicks into that corner. We didn't tryit once we had on. We kicked across field once for James Low in emtyadvantage, and he knocked it on. Why went? We should have been trying to dothat a little bit more frequently. They were rushing up in the fence. We neveronce chicked over the top or kicked it through. We just we ran up blind alleysand, as Dave said, rod it going off at twenty six minutes crippled us like. Ijust went through to all of the scores and the penalties during the game, andwe can see that we conceded fourteen penalties. They conceded eleven, but we only were given for after of theeleven penalties that they conceded, only four were kickable of go, which wegot three from those four, we conceded fourteen poundies, butseven of those, including one that they had a penalty for it. It they took thedrop go, but they had, including that Tropo they had six of their kicks, weresuccessful after seven that they went for the bolts so immediately on theback force, because we're given away penalties in dangers one for us, because probablywe let spent a lot of time. But if you look at the statistics with morepossession need more territory, we made more meter, here's than then and yet,but I like, I, was just trying to in my mind think of what like what what gotus in the end. I go godess of what happened on the pige right, because youcan only pick. I thought our team was was quite weak in certain positions andwhen I was going through it like- and I was just trying to compare the teamsthat we selected in the two previous High Nikon Cup finals. So I just lookedat sort of the difference is right. Lots of similarities was keen and mythought had a reasonable game, but you know the kite was there before him wascarny played like two hundred and nineteen times for Lens Ter. Ninetyfive island caps. Three or four lines caps, so foods of experience, but alsohe was a leader within that team like Sexton, was off so he had burnt again,I wouldn't say he's particularly a leader and I and then you know we had...

...like say. If you look at our bench like our benchwas much stronger, P and those two finals. We had guys like Atmic Jackwell in the back and he forwards like Edbron I to play it reasonably well,but you had Jack Magra was a line. Was it was in that match in the vow he had Jamison Gib some park was on the benchand you had a Carbury. You know instead of Fraley Fallis cost.Thirty four LENGSTEIN has ten minster caps, whereas the other guys like you, theywere hardly used, so they gave us noah a they were justthere in case somebody got injured. They went able to be used as astrategic too to bring on when we were on when we were down. But then I got Igot further thinking about it. Why were we a were we? I did? I did, but I was thinking well.Why well, why will we so weakened right? So we contribute three quarters of theIrish team. So all of our players go off and they you know, did the pinnacleof their career either to pay for the lines of play for their country right.So that's great achievement for them to go and play Fireland, but the otherprovince is by not producing an equal amount of internationals but the hugedraw on our resources. So it's you know it's a very tough sport internationalrugby. So we end up getting fellas coming back injured, so Daras came back,injured, conners Ryan ring rows like they were right for two months I hadn'tplayed since the Scotland match on the fourteenth of March Jamison Gibson Parkhasn't played since that match. SEXTON has had to come questionsplaying for Ireland. They were all there. They were missing like we onlygot Ryan and ring rows. Have that of those six lads back from injury for forty or fifty minutes againstmonster last weekend, but they haven't played a competitive man since March,so they all came back into the team or didn't come back into the team and then of the I use policy of thethree guys that I mentioned that have that have moved on for whatever reason,whether it's by being pushed or because they wanted to get they did for theyweren't going to get game time and Linster for whatever reason: they'veleft Jack, Mc Gra, Dordy Murphy, a joy Carbury with three guys that, unlikeyou, can't say that they're a placements, you know Ebur and I don't think, ishe's a good player. He's not he's not going to be a lion's loose had prop.You know I correctly, no okay, well check. My God is injured. Right hasbeen injured for for a while, but like three years ago he you, fouryears a pin knowthat level. Just not like you know, for all of the faith of the denser me, heaven Frawleyhe's still young and of he's. Only twenty three he's paid thirty fourtimes for us, but he's not joy carbury. Yes, you know I mean like he hasn't,Played International Ruby. He hasn't solidified his place in the Leinsterteam, he's still a unfurling, his trade and hopefully we'll have a strongcareer, but he's not there yet, whereas Carbury had played for Ireland when hewas sitting on the bench against a resting in be about three years ago. Soyou know we don't we're not we're just Trinetra significantly, but then you'vealso got the Carne has is retired Isa has retired. You know serve the deficitof leadership. It was massive amounts of leadership missingin that game, like even we had fardy would be considered a leader within thegroup. He was on the bench, so you had you mentioned. You know, Blay broughton bird Bardus played, I think twenty three times for Leinster he's twentyone he already played. Like you know, handful of of time, I think I'vewritten dance ower. He played a handful of starts. I think he's only startedten games and for Leinster, even though he's kind of it's been a meteoric risewith three caps and twenty three appearances, he hasn't actually startedtoo many games. So he's not one of the guys that you go and I fly when I'veplayed. I can remember Blosio a final againstblack rock and tank and Jes. You know we always had somebody that you turn toand you go he's going to do something special in this game and and inevitablyhe would and the final returned to him and your man didn't do it and there wasno one else willing to grab it by the Crawford the neck, and I kind of feltthat we were missing our leaders in the in the match in that team sheet andthere was no one able to rescue with out of the fire or o I've spoken fortwenty minutes or sorry s, everything you say it's absolutely athe only problem. Is it's not a talking to about it and that's, and that is Imean that is a problem and that's what it's a problem with ever solution. Imean the only way that we are going to...

...be less reliant on. Our Irishinternationals is to shift ship them off, because monster cone colter aren'tgoing to be in a position to take up the slack for three or four orfive, maybe five years anyway, Ecole you, you know what's in that squat intheir squads now right. So if they start now, it'll be five years beforethey have guys coming through. So we're not it's just we just have to live withit. I mean there's nothing we can do about it. That's the problem, that's that's! The T E T e, if you like thethe faste impact you make. If you look back to that SARCINIS fatal in to Dainnineteen, we were actually complaining of a similar thing that we didn't havethe backs on the bench. Or do we didn't have the straight on the bench theterritons did. They had well skeleton they think on the bench that date, man, his who's played in two of our three knocked games at ELA,gave we've been up dead in in the last three seasons. They had him on the bench we didn'thave that kind of power of the VENGER. At the time we were complaining andthat's what that was one of the things I lost a first or bad. You just saidJays or bench now. VAT is a pay of shadow of what it were was againstreversing in terse two and three years ago that that right, Riabhach team, that if we know what, if we know whathas happened in the past- and we know that things aren't going to change, they have to come up with a way ofgetting around it and they haven't yet well. How do you come o come up with away around a one paid, the MEDO signing players in a pandemic, or youknow it is an answer because we have, I mean we're not going to we're, notwe're not going to sign those players, they're, not we're not going to get thetree, I'm sure Iredell. Somebody coming that's going to take the spot of one ofthe four Irish lots. You know it's that's just the way it is but, like that's, the other option isyou know, making sure you've got a full deck at this time of the season, butbut the litter the other after de. Yet No, it is. You know, you're right whatyou, but we still need a plan John and we didn't have a van and that's themost disappointing thing. We didn't look like ye man. Have we taken the I RI off the ball, then to say, but look at all the other teams. Ris just lookhow many foreigners are playing currently in connect. I know there'sLita different case I w kind of, but even like you know, just sign on hersigning the Australian sevens players, your man, the cad from Papale fromlubly. You know- and it's probably you know- I know they're kind of adifferent different case right, but you got big name imports of an Ulster oreven going around and far finding someone like will addison who's a superplayer. What with you know Irish heritage or Irish blood and bringingthem into into the mix likewise down and monster? We know what they've, whatthey've done, bring it in to Africans and but they've also kind of trolledaround looking at Sam for players who wove got Irish blow and whether whetherit's England sh Ireland, like helie or holly,or even Mano Male Her from Saracens last year,whereas are we wedded to the whole or economy? Are U now the schools and theacademy? And it's all great, I'm sure where the the envy of the world likethat's great, and we are, you know mean we are when when we were successful, thoseschools were also producing players right. You know like when I say when Isay West, when they were success. When we started being successful or evenprior to us being successful, those schools were still there and Michael'srock plumbo's. You Know Konza, etc, etc. Were all producingplayers when we were losing in Lansdown roadagainst monster in o six o morte their kind of our produce. Inthose guys t they still had rocky else and Brad Torn East in the sea. You knowlike really good foreigners that were coming in, that were adding to thewhole mix. Rather than like the whole of our start in fifteen, where Irishqualified I know James, I was born in a in New Zealand. Likewise Friday was obviously played forAustralia. That was in the twenty three you know, and it's wonderful that youcan kind of say. Well, there all kind of Mert comes home grown with, with theexception of the two lads born in New Zealand and Australia. You know it's awonderful thing to say, but ultimately do we not do? Have we shot ourselves itbit in the foot by not having...

...you know an experienced former? I don'tknow Australian, scrum half or an our former Australian center or formerAustralian hooker yeah you're, probably right to a certain extent that becausethe Irish, because the national team is so dependent on anser players, leserhave have less flexibility to sign farm players who might take spots away fromthose players monster nuter and to Lester in comic toell signed. You know pretty when monster notes are certainly a signedstar names from abroad, but that's the if you have always done that. If a teamlooks to be drifting after pace, particularly one of the big three theytend to, they tend to pump it up a bit. We were on the receiving and then twothousand and eight thousand and nine we got a you know a switch hating. If you like we're acopying prop, we got the best non or black in New Zealandand we got you know an absolute force in nature and rocky so that kind ofhelp get up or so the thing same thing happened in Ulster in two thousand andeleven and an I'm sorry t you could even add in come to pome. You know inyes in no seven was short listed into the top three of the world player oftheater. He was there at the time an Ya had the guy who sat on the bench behindGeorgia Gregan Chris Whitaker yeah, I mean like so we so and then you had yeh, h, D. Obviously, Stan Rice was there to so you had six fire and born playerssupplementing de likes of the two best enters in the world. The you know, ayoung Johnny Sexon that was was a broader. Some bit of the location of the international squadwas, was a much brother spread back then I mean those elements of it. whereI mean it wasn't exactly the case, but the old joke was it was the monsterpack in the Lancer backs. You know there was one or two lansorforwards on one or two months or backs, and you know the audonce guy thrown infor good measure, but the spread was wider. We, the Irish team, wasn't asdependent on answer players as it is at the moment and at the end of the day,despite what we are might like to take a what we are right like to wanton. Weall want Tinian cops and we all want this. We all want that the end of theday. The only thing that really matters to the R is the six nations, or youknow the international team, that's the be all and end of because that's whatkeeps the game in this country going, but there's a og there's an old rubyexpression and was a strong Olster side for man. A strong are inside. So inother words, it was, they were always consinted, like Kona, didn't reallycontribute anything to the sixth to the by Matins. National team. Linster and monster predominantlysupplied ninety per cent in the players, but if osteon can cough up sort oftwenty percent of the team and that you know it always meant that there wasextra competition for places there, but it don't see also were at the strongeststar was probably at its weakest yeah. Well, that's fair enough, but like thiswas probably gone back before that those days but like we are. I just feltthat you know all these guys coming back into our into the Leinster camp.injured, really really knocked us like what you could and youcould see. There was both- I mean: okay, they, you know, we beat monster in that proforty final and then our match against Tilon was was cancelled and then we hada matching against exer north and then for a couple of weeks, and I marchedagainst monster where we last like it was far from my idea of preparation,but I thought that, like even when the guys like say, lady who wasn't playinginternational, be took the opportunity to have so you know we were really really downto our our bare bones in our in our strongest position. In the background,when we probably have eight nine or ten of the top back road of probably thetop probably have eight of the top ten back rowers in the country playing in Rclub, but probably private them were injured, yeah and and like one of thethings that's like just specifically to Laroche, therewere guys missing, who I feel would have made a material difference in thatgame. I feel that a Daniil would have made a big differencein terms of will conners with his chop, tackling its, one o what it's one of the show ways to stop with big guy, and we were missing Jamison Gibson Pack, who would havebeen able to negate carabale coming from that museum system, I meanhere's. The thing right said I said I inante week an...

Ireland produces maybe worn world classgrom half every twenty years, or so I think that's pretty much the record. Why don't? We just go out and sign aworld class? CROM? Half it's not like the black in anyone yeah I mean it would make a hugedifference. I couldn't agree more with you, but you know- and I was just aboutI actually just before- was in a d fan a litera. I like Lutaga, I like his. Ilike his attitude. I like him as a player, but he's you know he is what heis and he's he is what he is now he's not going to in the next year or twohe's not going to turn into candour right but like like e Mo going to youget, I would say, there's probably two in Yandah of you. The three provinces,hiwards, I would suggest, is actually a better scrum half than Luke Magra Nice. I mean so you wouldn't say a a I s red right, Sayaka right, okay, I insinse provinces. I would actually saythat is two players better than that to scrimmons better than them, and I would actually argue then, thatthe guy that's Jeffs Jamison Gibson Park, even though he is selected on thebend friand at the moment he doesn't get a look in when it comesto selection for Lens Luke, Agra played like say last season no program playedfive of the six high nick and cup matches, plus the match againstSaracens and generally gets the nod in the bigger games for Leinster. In thisseason he played against he paid against monster. He played against Montpellier and I and he played. Obviously you knowyou know it's kind of it's unfair, to kind of judge them in the ser sense tosix nations, because Gibson Park has been injured. So we obviously it'sgoing to be Marrit, but I feel that mark that Lutma is not too dissimilarand like day ovem bad, the coaches, love them and he's he's obviously verywell taught of as a leader and so on close so's, your man, you know so just plendy. What erplayers that are goodly leaders doesn't necessarily mean that they are ainternational stand like you're playing for Lanse. You have to be there andthere about one and the national team, and now you can disagree with me thatfine of whether I was picking order within Ireland, but he's not in the topthree currently, according to some of the Irish coaches, and I would tend toagree with them and I'd, Say Hal and blade would actually be ahead of themas well. My point is whether he's the best of the non connomore co ass or theworst of the non correct, Condo Maris Com. As after Connomore, to paraphrasebill, Hicks, there's a real fucking drop off right. The next best is basically thetallest dwarf right. So and if you look back over the last sixty years or like we're all in ourfifty, so we can think about guys. Have we ever produced more than one worldclassroom half every twenty years or so? No? No, so why don't? We admit that wefucking know northin about scrum half flay in Ireland, cat culture, CatGeorge and, let's just forget about it, and sign a fucking goods, grum half yeah, I mean there- I mean you look at,say, there's guys playing club robeing. Wales would say I'm going to pick aname, Thomas Williams, Lod Williams, any one Williams who are far betterthan anything we have here, except for can a Murray and they're just their average clubplayers in well. We just don't know s Cron half player and we can't coach it.We don't know anything about it. We have. We don't produce them with us oneevery twenty years, which is in the realms of fluke. So, let's just forgetabout it and sign a world class room half and I'm not talking about get theguy who's you know, might be a fat at the end of a contract. Might we fancyfelt in the norm? Heriter I mean going out a target and the guide the way wedid rocky Alson or the way also did Charles Pate or the way monster did orgs namen get the best. I completely agree with you. Icompletely read you because, like if you're like, if you're playingfor a club, that you know consistently gets into the either the final or thesemi final of Europe, you know we rank. I think we're rang fort in Europe. Iyou kind of a big cheese. You know and you're, not if you'reenough there or the abates on the national team like what's wrong withyou. You know what I mean like you have that's the standard that you have to be,but I think that Leinster, the coaches love them and they kind of have theykind of had their to to have to manage two spots because they have given toquarters of their team away to the national side and then some sometimesthey send away. You know sixty and...

...seventeen guys with Maryland. Not allof them will make the Max Day twenty three but they're away, training incamp, and you have someone like Luke Magra and he's not too as Tamina to sayLeo Colin was back in the day. You know a good standard player pose like Leo Gas, thirty Irlanda his peers,where Mallow Kelly, got ninety Donica Callan at ninety Holoku captain thelines and has a hundred and twenty or whatever do you know what I mean, sothose guys were collecting lots of latter caps Leo was back in Leinster,managing the boat, while everyone else was away been. You know nurturing truethe younger guys making sure that and, as a result, you know probably has anindividual a probably made him a great guy as as he's got older and made himinto a great coach, because it's it towd him that you can still be. Youknow a decent person that your club captain, that you can kind of e, haveproblems of the field that you kind of to go to you and look up to you so on,and I just feel that's the way luke is being molded to be maybe to thedetriment of the team that, because it's a weakness in our team like we saw in in Newcastle two years ago, you knowhe said he box kicked and I didn't go. He didn't make his touch second, beforehalf time or a few seconds before half time, and they played us and tookadvantage and scored just on the stroke half time and we gave up a ten mit leadto go in ten all at half time in that final and when we had moments that that gameneeded leadership, it was hard I didn't see any. I just didn't see somebodygrabbing the game by this boor the neck last Sunday, because all of our leadersare gone, sexton was gone, Rodick was off the pitch after twenty five minutes.Fardy was still sitting on the bench, sextis injured, you know and like the one, the the one guy thatneeded to be the leader was no program, and I don't think he showed us in thatgame. Well, I don't, but I don't know aboutthat, but well I I kind of have to agree with you on the evidence. I mean it to a certain extent. I mean Ifeel, a bout of a talk about grand like this because he's a guy I like I happento think he's the best of the rest, but that's not saying very much. I otherscould just agree with me and they have perfectly genmens people say: honey people say Mame and I know JoeMitori was the best of the rest, qual and blade. These are all goodplayers, O the young, Feller Casey, now and monster. These are our brillantly.It doesn't really matter because Zaria Connor suggested him for the lines wholook with Ra. I did E, he wasn't alone Ethothia.There was a couple of guys. Talking about you know at the start of thisweekend will make their case for the lines in talk with a s ganged yo'retalking about and Luke McGraw's a guy who came into it. Obviously crazy stuff,but a I mean we don't. We haven't, said Scrim halfkind of before connomore. who was the last. I was going to have to go on thelines: John Robbie, John Robber, yeah, that let just show you where we're atlike yeah, I mean there has been very few. You know tough qualities come out andthen you're going back to make Bradley, like I mean, like sometimes Lucera, passing, isn't faroff MC Bradley's Possion, that's, okay, fine, but like a polden had hands of asurgeon yeah, you know, and then like I mean, but that that was it I mean wehad. We had made bradly would say from what eighty four through to ninety five yeah yeah every ten years. That and Imean the guy was a brave. He was like an extra flag, her he was Bridan. Wegot a lot of advantage out of that when he was rhe was very deficient in now inthe past, and now he's a brilliant decision maker. He was a great kickerhe's a brilliant tackler, but he was deficient as the pastor. TheGuy who kind of came in was, if you remember for knocked him out, for maybe a season ortwo was gosier. Yeah be passer, very classical starts from half, not a greatdecision maker, though you know, made bad choice and screw half. You know hehandled the ball more than any other player on the pitch and every time he handles the ball. Hehas to make choices. He has more choices than any other player on thepath as well, because yet you know when a proet, when the prop gets the boll,his chis top process, isn't who should have put a little dink in here? Orshould they kick it? You know the scroome has to have that process andFergus an didn't. We are great at producing, imperfect, Croma. Yeah Yeah, we are, I agree, like I just fish that off, because I do t saysomething passe. One of the reasons I were so good at itis because those cowhair, often a very...

...good at two out of the three thingsthat are needed and they're always really game lads as whatever it has tobe said. Yeah. I agree. You know we're kind ofthere was a lot to talk about having a lack of bulk in the team, and it'sinteresting like say in prior to the world. Cop Tono was jetes in favor of the more bulkier guy, don'ttink clime, you know we kind of it. Sort of just seems strange that we need. Youknow we kind of Defi fire with fire and have a agains, a very large pack of wecontinued with toner. When you know someone like Josh Mc Jadis jet isentimeters from the squad, because we were going to go for more book. But,like you know, the we do have some big guys like thatis not Guy Jack down. He's huge. Is Me James Ryan. Is You yeah? Did weexponens of the some of the conopy was like we don't have a paragot. We shouldhave gone out inside signed a big guy like like brad torn that on wasn't a big guy. That's no go very big. You told onPeyote, but he was I five six O six, maybe maybe six six s sure I think hewas six close, the six four and six five when he was registered at six footand he was not seventeen stone. I mean he wasn't a massive guy, it's a it'swhen he did with us. You know it's not a bad signing, a big guy. It's allabout what you do with. If it's not it's not to die in the fight,is the fine dot? It's what it's. When the dog chooses toapply the fight yeah, I yeah you know. If we I mean no, the O you're going toget a S, you're, always going to get outliers where, like motor sciencenamen or we signed brad torn or alter signed, whoeveryou're all going to get advice. But Irish ruggy players are as a whole andmassively hugely powerful, guys right and that's kind of one of the beautiesof Ronge that there are many different ways of playing the game. So we tandplay a game that doesn't need massively big, powerful guys and it's capable ofnotifying them. Well. That brings me straight back for the point of we didn't move them around. We didn'tmake them work, we didn't tire them out. They like that was the classic gamethat plays to would play against Pelee, big French pikes that we tugged atagainst. We moved the round, we made them work hard and we didn't let themrest. We didn't let them have breaks between set pieces. We did. We justkept the ball and play to Tarte BESEDA and moved them around the pitch as muchas US kicking behind them make them run towards us. You know get the justeverything that you can do to move those big lads around the Fal as muchas possible and have them with their hands on their knees, Braga theres, andwe didn't do it now. We could have done, I'm sure we never. We never talkedabout other comfort on in terms of fitness or ability exactly. Maybe thecoaches had a plan to do it, but we didn't execute or I don't know what theanswer is, but you know well we're looking for excuses. When dowe just throw in the old? Oh well, our league doesn't test this ocean. We rollover teams every week and I normally don't er. I normally don't give muchcredit that argument, although this season idea- because I mean not becausethe league I it's just I but the whole holy league, including ourselves- havebeen fairly crapped this year. But it's just because of thecircumstances. It's not because it's an inherent crap league allow a lot O t to Huh Mian be next year. We see he next a S. I watch some of the sad AfricanRainbow Cup games and the sooner the better is all I can say. Like you know ye I did. I did I don't like watchingthose things so, but I hat the ant was M. I thought the attitude of thecommentator was funny because the guys lying on the ground roaring swear wordshad the comte goes down would like to apologize ony of the views. If you hadonly upsetting language there, but sometimes these things hurt and thenthey kind of show it again and again and again you know, but I am yeah so that might show you you know Imight. I might hear the swears, but you you'll see the guys me ben thebackwards but like we just come back to like the League, the quality of theLeague- and I do I take that point and we said as many times before. However,like t you know all of the Irish players play in the pro fourteen and webe England, this season, we've beaten, Northhampton and we'vebeaten,Montpelier and belier in the final of...

...the challenge. Cub like we beat them, we beat them overthere. You know where they're kind of tuned in and turned down and both ofthose himand cop rand, one and round two matches. We put thirty five pointson, like you know. I think I heard a lancastertalking during during the week and he said- and you know he said since hestarted straining so it's five years and the five years, our average in a high neck and cupmatch garous opposition is four point: Five tries per game, you know, so we can say. Oh we hammer the dragonsand we hag. We Hammer Edinburgh. You know, whichever of theother teams in the League, but we actually hammer other clubs aswell. Yeah, that's an it! It's like you know. One year we got to the finaland Monet one year. We got to the final and came second like this. That happens.You can't lean everything. One year you get to the staminal and orbeaten by a much better team on the day. But if we played them five times, maybethey might win off five games but like they're there and there abouts, youknow like we seem to Astolat between the besttime that we win one game and were the best. I ever we lose one game and werethe worst that ever like there's not fast. It's not that black wise. We juste. We are, as we have been every year, pretty much in thousand and nine one ofthe four best sides in Europe and one of the sides, one of the the four sides who can win you. Okay, you can go into a seasonwith a realistic hope of winning competition. That's what we are and Ithink we feel that and what you say is right. I mean one of the complaints. Imean. What are the complaceat people make? Is the League can't be any goodbecause lanse walk through it? Now I'm going to leave I'm not going to talkabout this, sir, because they she it's been a different set of circumstancesright, but up until open til, this season, naters always been or theleagues rubbish, look at the way, lanewards tre. The reason! That's whyit's true is because that's a really fucking good team, then so walt's. True,the European group mothers as well. Now I think this year has been aspecial teat circumstances. The teams have been particularly crapped thisyear, but I think we have as well. I don't think we've been very good disherin the pro fourteen M. Well, we've been good on certain days,but we you know we're beat we'll get to in shortly, but I we're beaten byconnect. We were beaten by ospreys yea and we were beaten bymonster in the Rainbow Cup, like you has three to feet this season comparedto going on Beaton the previous yer, okay, we played Saracens or we, but I'mtalking about sort of pro for team action yeah. I think I think I standard signor,the pro fourteen, I think, satit of all the leagues, but I'm only concernedabout the pro fourteen. I don't really care about the other ones in terms ofwhatever I think satin a pou fourteen this year because of the satiric msance we find ourselves in was lower, but you know like it's verywe've seen us when we've seen like when beatty get behind us. You knowit's the best league in the world s t e e gives that's right, then, what's gone,the color premiership the greatest league in the world with the bestplayers so on so on so on, and you know like just some very good teams and ofcourse there is a bristol the net and Exeter excellent sides, but there's another dross and we noticethat Laali of brass, but pet won't tell you that where is from the the from the pro fourteen point of view themedia is against us. I mean you hear nothing with negativity towards the ofcourse. This is lots of issues, but it has never got a fair go and it. It wasonly really for the three fleeting moment three fleeting years, that skywere doing it, that they would kind of bang a drum for us and make us asthough you know like we get to the lines. There's twenty of the thirtyseven lions are play in our league. More than half of the players play inour league that are picked on the lines, so you just mean you've got thatquality and not all of them play and unfortunately, even one when they arepicked for their sides, especially the Welsh ones. They don't seem to turn upfor a lot of the Games, but you know, but just going back to ouragain very briefly, like if flame had a got that pass away to MC Gran. If Ryan Bart had I held on to that ballthat he kind of jobble when he went for the intercept it could have been such adifferent game of those two moments had a stuck antes and balls yeah. I agreeyeah, I ma, but that's that's- that charges Port Im. Sport is a game. Imean sport is a game. Sport Swings aremomentum and a fur lot and momentumchanging events and have a huge...

...difference on a game. A team, that'splaying brillantly well, can have one thing: go against and certainly they'renot they're, not so good any more and they the performance draps off withinthe space of a minute. But that's that's the way it is. I mean at the endof the day we were we were, we were well beaten and we deserve to be beatenand the better team won the team with the better tactics Beta selection, the team. He played the better game,one, it's a simple, as that I mean king it to get a coach game. That's Calusthe team of the better coach. Well, at the end of the day we can complain. Nowwe, like everybody, can complain all they like about all the hyperacusisrodes in a High Nikon. He isn't dad for a Tom, it's just one of your talkingabout sky like and I remember what seeing one of the producers on sky wason one of those BBC Takbar programs where they have an audience in. Theyask questions, and it was, I think I think it was he, the manager directoror the managing editor of Sky Sports, and you guy says No. I like watchingfootball, but I think sky are ridiculous. I mean the hype you give toFleetwood town versus charity. You think it was man, United AgainstLiverpool, and the editor said: Look if you're a fleet would town fan or aCharley Fan. Your biggest night of the week is the night your team plays. Sowhy doesn't that deserve to three hours that man and I to get or liver Pol getbecause for you, that's as big as a cat, and there can never be enough hype andthat's sky's attitude has always been that for the people who are going towatch the game they want that, and that was their attitude to the pro fourteen.Unfortunately, they didn't stick around on enough yeah. I know I shouldn't doit, but I kept. I just listened to a couple of podcast and you wear it. Hewould swear. I know, have an de daggers there right like he would swear according to some of the ORC panel,that we were beaten by the act points and that we were hardly glad. I was ofour own twenty two during the during the game that be somebody WHO's, norelation by any chance. That's the man, that's the man, but like I mean I dosomething in the court. Getting that name taken off a exactly depot on look,I'm going to draw a line under that now. We've spoke about it and I'm sure you watch the Lester altramatch on Friday night, like how did Ulster News that game they were winningsix they're winning seven to six s a time. A D no stupid it is Atensi mean okay, likethe last code, could it a massive player for Otter, right Ye er and theylasted fairly early on the first second half. Both the pattern that had alreadybeen set, the whales to were playing in the second half was the way theycontinued to play in the second half shift me man o forty three minutes solike you know it was pretty much start, but I thought Ben on coming on o tobolts. He did I at Ere. I came trementecontinued to back. Kick the Bar Yeah Yeah. He did, but I thought when BenYoungs came on, he made a severe contribution. To that I mean I thoughthe was outstanding when he came on and they kind of coincide. I think coonywent off after forty three minutes and you almost came on a forty five and thethirty five minutes he was on. He was a bit I mean I was in a very good playeryeah I has like I mean, and I was surprised that he was decided that Ithink his wife is pregnant. Actually, so he decided not to go on the lines he larry a ten, I thought was good. Ithought he looked like he, but Madison just kicked everything away, not toinert what happened with our match. Also cognisant. I have been saying thatLarry should be playing a ten. He played a tent in the school's career athis natural position, but there's a fear in alter that he's too small forthe position now. Maybe that's why they were paying them a polack to kind oftoken them up and see if you could survive in which he did in France. Somaybe we might see more of them a ten, because I mean bely the content as Pica.Ten Against Monster Tomorrow, nice play away biddy Burns got along, is a goodtryer and a talent, ruly player, but he's not going to win anything yeah yeah, I I I mean I I just toto kind of set the set thetone for the weekend of all of our picks that we went for a for all rightt w. We really are nailed on a we just go for the OPSIS, go over the APPsof what we pick. So, let's we're going to lose to come up this weekend, deathto be predictable, yeah well thy. Well, so I wanted our count. I mentioned thatwe conquered montpelier. They made to the final of the Challenge Cup e. Therethey be bath, one tousand, nine hundred and ten again, the rails filter andwhen a real trailer, but again another error from us. We all went for Bath andthat came as well. Ye, that's US believe ing the bt Hij mustbe must be. We jumped on the train,...

...okay, so the lions were announced today,so there's age. Irish, a couple of surprises definitely wasn't expecting on the acytogether against the nomination and delighted for tectas going to say youcan see why, with on the Ike, he were in Gentman like Josmian Los is bigbucks, the the play in town Africa into Africa. You probably need a few big,strong boys and Gary ringrose being of the Willow Willowy type in conversion,the Bonde Ake to me a superior player. I know nothing to your taste alwayschosen, but I wish you'd just passed a bit more Dan. I think he's a fine car, but you know for me. If I was pickingan Erlan team, every day will be picking Gary ringrose in so that bonyisn't like a million plays behind me, there's close enough and have an a Kanring. I have an IP and Encho together at twelve and thirteen is a great ComboHeaven Anchoto and brings a thirteen is also a great Cambobong about catlandhe's a verie's at the state very experienced tourist and tore manager.Sure and bondit be a great tourist sure whether he plays in the chest or nothe'd be a great man in that squad. That's quite will out. You know reallyhe'll help imental. That's quite let I uh. If someone's laptops nick he'll gointo some T, that's kind of thing. He does. I mean he need o. He could end up in the John Banchi tour.You know yeah, I know he's kind of, but you say o Mike, even when kind of onthe actually, when I din on the Grand Slam as well remember in Twickenham,you got them all into some into a circle and they were doing some sort of dancer or Clapham thing yet another. IDelia Jack One, I'm like a what a a a a roller coaster, as lads had you knowhe was playing, went over to World Cup in Japan got injured over. There cameback that the Rehab seemed to take a lotlonger than was originally suggested. In the meantime, Daras was discovered and you know, hit the ground runningbecame an Irish international, fairly instantaneously nailed on lines.Tourists go to to last September. Go on Bluestar, already program and say Jack Conan will go on the lones Tor ahead, a billy Vilaplana and watch people roll around the floor O thatthing I kick out you absolute Mora Anyway, nothing about Ruby in the Jackon Im ad predicted it jam well, exactly there's j there is pretty Vonalis haslost a lot of a fitness and be for and actually I'm shot there. Five sarsensplayers more than anybody else. Yeah an you know considering England lookedvery blunt and their diet of Saracens players inthe six nations. I'm just shocked that there you knowobviously there's quality there and you know on Faro- is a correctin playerMari Mari Itogi? Is You know world class? You know there's a couple of it.They said Eli Day is probably there because it was land booth on the on hisversatility of you know just switching position. Thething we have to remember is the holy felts go like that with a big boot is abig advantage, but you know he's not my onparelled as a coach, that land isn'tmy cup of tea, but the guy is one more brand Lampton Arend yeah, most many Grand Sam essere andEsteye kind of knows what he's doing. What's the heck foe, his results speakfor themselves. He Changed Arlan trajectory. He went out the worst. Hewent, you know and brought to the two lining copse. You know he brought whatas from the Wilderness to several well. Canthey want a grand slam under under a rebook, but he brought them into a newplace and they've never been the same since they be okay, they want to. Theywant to challenge it this year, but you know there were never the samepreviously, the guys lover at them. A lot of people seem to hate him. His results speak for themselves. He'sbeen this his fourth Linster tured his head coach. You know these he's got the pedigreecoming, it is Blazo. I always think that for me I don't think he's a grayhead coach. I think he's a great...

...director of rope and I think that's what he actually is and he that he runs a very good collegeof coaches. You know- and this is meant to be dining with faint praise. This isactually the hardest thing to do. He gets good coaches working togetherand points of all in the right direction. Under his guidance, I think that's a real is real spill. That's fair! A let's see be his role,as you said so, and he's and again it has to be said. He is a good tourist. My father in law was, I was at the lastlines to her and he'd know a couple of lines: players, parents and on Gatlinswife organizes the families really well and they are super happy on Intur and ahappy family means a happy player yeah. Well, you know the guy is doneHilton Right. Yes, I he's a bit grizzly in real life like ye as did expect, butI think he's a very he's. A very committed kind of a blokeand he's very he's got this andy establishmentstriking him like he's, got his won't bend any for anybody. Striking H, m,that's kind of stubborn unless alienates him from a lot of people, but I funny say, like I mean and you'reright of course, that he has this at the establishment. Thinking of, couldthere be a more establishment job then yeah, the bishnish lines? That'sexactly it! That's! That was my point like head diseases. You know we're allworking contradictions to Oltre, but how does he fit those things into his Cv like he's in just Saturdays the idealto is a very good tourist. No same time, it's a contrary, bastard who doesn'tlike it thirty. You know it's it's it's funny, but it works the guy. Whatever you say about him, and we havea you know, he he's got history with us, so we've got his stupid various reasonsover the years, but he seems to be able to pullulate it, and he also he has thepeople who know- and I don't mean you know, people whoactually know have played for him or played with the mercenary plates underhim. Nobody brings and I'm sure he's I'm sure he doesn't spare fills or doesn't suffer fills, but you know he's obviously loyal and looksafter his his players and looks a to the people underneath them. So I alwaysgot the feel of the cat and he doesn't actually give a fuck with think abouthim. Exactly that I mean you, could you could you could go on tour with them orplay for him at clover, international level? And then you know, call himevery FND under the son, but if he mot, if he thinks that you're the best guyin the team, you pick you the next week as well. If he don't give a shit likeyou, don't care what you think about him in a good way. Well, I wouldn't saythat's true really, because you know you've got a, I don't see im given idea,so in a job and dagger you've got to have good, yougot to be able to brain players together. You rather have some empathyto be to be a good head coat, so I don't buy this, he doesn't know hedoesn't give a show you, but any things of me as to he has to be able to pullplayers say he doesn't let it can in the way of his professionalism. Ofcourse, of course he saw we saw what he did to dress, not it did to a disco,but he wasn't afraid to take a hard decision. Everyone knew was going to bea dress of last match last hour. You know I an absolute the most famouslines, player of his generation and he said so you're not playing the lastgame. I ishtai would have a and B. No, I just think he's not afraid to makehard decisions e to do fuck on a bit his nose to spite is face. His Dhe feltat a RISCO. It was a better player in a risker and he wasn't afraid to makethat to Stan and that's what he did and he ten takes a lot of the gods and tosimply still think that the best partnership on that tour was, we onlysaw once was manatoline Bridore yeah, that's true, that's, but one thing thathe did do rise. He picked two Scottish coaches and the two Scottish coachesdid there little yes stan by getting a Scottish players and how you can tellme Chris Harris Ali price and Vanderneer e to get picked on that team.Hell still doin a Mir doing the African guy do have the rueyeah he's gone to the lines? Yes read.

That's quite again, I didn't noticethat otherwise I mean yes, Harris is t he's I mean he in Faris. Chris Harrishe's done a brilliant job. On Top, are I mean he's turned it around, but butlike I mean how Henry Slade is in that name, I mean, may be more o for the pears. Imean I can actually understand, but I I was goin on back. I get picked, I'm bemore annoyed for so absolutely, but, like I mean you know, these linesstores are notorious for how they're they're selected. Yet like twenty yearsago, Don Lennon was the manager. He pulled every single card that he had toguest Ronin, O Gar on the side or not on the side on the torn party, which hedid, he managed to get a Gar alone, but he had no cards left to play tobring down a Sicki he left behind, and he said a couple of years ago. TheDennis Ake would never pay for a team of his yeah. After set of after the setAfrican winger brokers, pocus cheap on an yeah broke, his chepica, a I guy, went on the play for holster intheir final and I to you, went on the play, for he was a Laertian yeah yeah,but, like that's the way lines tours, no, it's a coralie that everybody kindof tries to push the on like just three wild guys. This is one key we and is aScottish, but like just one of the world to one Scottish Damase to tonational Scottish teams, coaches so like, hence there's ten well to, andit's like you tell me the four Leinster players, which is also four scarletplayers, like you know, O yeah. Okay, I can kind of get that I can kind of getthat, but up to the end of or the start of six nations, they were on a hugelosing streak in a world cop like they. You know like if we go back even sayScott on right, Scotland, for a long leg to a Bando everywhere, take Ye. Itwas a like that of some psychological thing say so, Scotland, in the last twosix nations, a one three of the five games I just so nough, but before thatlike in the w than nineteen season, they lost four of their five games.They didn't make it out of their pool in the world cop with was are Pon. Youknow what I mean they were atrocious, but so like, for example, he's got on hisselected five guys from Saracens who how we saw how rubbish they were duringthe six nations totally undercut like England, the worst six nation isfinish in a decade. Those are Janolan. Now you could say that all those guysthat e selected have all done as previously. Yes, they have, they got towork or final they and on Ground Slam. On the hat, a e t Solis James RyanYeaten. The other side of the argument is, if you're going back that far look.How Crop Scotland were back at that back that point, but because they'vegot two coaches, they managed to get a players in like the the one got I play,even even that that I would never have on the tour. I'm sorry, I don't care. Iknow everybody thinks he's great and it's not because Jon testing, but Iwould have picked reach priests and the head of him and that's a fison inRussell Yahi. Don't see why he's there he's nothe's not a typical lins player like the the fact he went out and got the humpan left in the middle of it to like you. Just did not see that the temperamentto be a line peer. Did they get him to be on the midweek team Presumin,although you think that's ten biggers road as well, so I, ah I don't know I ehow bigger might be the test out? Half. Definitely that's who I think Iactually tossed that they might have Broccoli as an absolute outsider,purely because that, with the two Scottish coaches, they are always goingto bring Fin Russell, and he doesn't kick so. Therefore, I toll it, theywere going and bring cooney in that would take over a kicking in those midweekends that wasn't in a daily yeah. Maybe so, like you know yourself, they picktwenty seven guys oby going to be another five or seven guys. Everyone isa yeah because it's always injuries and especially Safie, trying to look knocklumps of them there. Quite what's the what's. The provincial program like forthis tour is a quite have an announced to having an answer to put presumethey're going to play or five of their for. I remember like I I ninety seveneverybody remember is ninety seven but remember ninety seven lines going downto play like the likes of Im, pumelling or whatever, and get seven kinds ofshot. Not There was that the match that study were got is a, but I remember those games I mean toforget. If you don't manage the tour right in terms of the Games you play,you can find yourself calling up ten...

...twelve guys because a it's very the pictures arehad so there's a lot of attrition just natural attrition, but they go and kicktry and kick the shit out. And then you add a couple of beefy. Africa is tryingto beat seven kinds of long study it I make, but they kind of nearly do it fortheir country. You know do ye it a R Springier, no question of thatanyway, at least, but I I mean from an rest, perfective tired to argue without of the guys who didn't get picked up whatever other teams and otherplayers in the and Scotts or whatever. There are guys who a don't have thebody of work behind them because of injury or whatever and be I mean they're worried about. I mean Ithink Alan was what he said. A J sexton was probablyunfair, but true yeah. You do attention to lot earlier.Jason. The fact that the Ri reckoned a Johnny Saxon just wasn't durable enoughfor three test against the Spring Bok, which can really argue with that. Sonow it. But some people would have said that after the six nations he wasnailed on to tour whether wot was name. That was a test. He was the milk. He was the mostprolific place kicker. I think he had eighty six percent success right. Soyou know I mean me, he's kicking that's where there during the six matinal as well,Yeah Sam, very well, like I mean, if you think about it, we a game againstSigwe line to were lines to r kicks off, or the parts and Johnny sexon stillhasn't played again. So as well as you know, you know yes, as information,we don't yeah and maybe like in Hind sice. It mightn't be a bad thing if Saxon hassix months off and he comes back next September- do and get rested up and get ready tospend the season injured for Anster. Well, think it's a good thing for alive. Bat Is it's a might be necessarily good thing for answer may be a good thing for the lions. I would say you could come back weekafter next be playing out of the skin. Fin Russell has a sole halfway throughfalls out with the towns and and Secon back out back out in the Red Jersey.You never know. Oh I can. I can see him getting a it to the E. I mean look atthe amount of people that get out and what's the yeah statistic you know ten players or not. I be verysurprised, it's already less than five to ten players added to the squad atvarious points. During the thing, that's just how I think a lot of theIrish players should go on so far into the south up. Well, he was just a bitto say: There's no way he can do a ship. Nowadays, you can just pick your Hollis.You can do anything you want. You can do anything you want if you got linesmoney behind you jot, Jo, the proximity six. What were he called? LEGITEgeography see there won't be any joke of he even thisletter, because her you got to get to see fig in in one of the many very expensiveprivate planes the lines can afford, because it's the biggest thing inrubbing. Okay, we speaking speaking of that and it'snot like it. Nothing said Africa hasn't got any experience of coralling peopleinto areas mtres little bit of per politics. There yeats, like I me speaking to quarantine,we've seen Linster when they came home from France. They had to put forty six guys with their ownexpanse to DK custom in Radisson Blue Hotel. A still organ for five nights had the bequest of the ISH government.So let him come chief. Those try painting point to the age time. So youknow, I suppose you know the players can go to a quarantine if they want,but it does cost yeah. I mean anyway, anyway, Mohenj orsomething rory, suderlant Marty, more wasn'tplaying for Lanse Ha, that's a man who doesn't need anyartificial enhancement to them. Rory Suderman. Anyone any reason why he should be going alone.Thor is he is he one of the chefs he's named, I alone, to bring. I knowever really said Chris Haris, but like...

...love as I from what's going, when there yougo where's he from WHO? Is He what you know we're roby funds? We don't leay.Where is early price at least we've heard of anda priciple player pens is yeah, he's better player than r price sines thereGod. So he forget. I'm very good fan to you, know Chris Harrison, rory, sort of and justjump out as names to me that like do, I then you're talkin about er price. Iwas really funny the other day. Some of the germ Tony Ward wrote a piece in thepaper, apparently where he talked about the Super Rothe SinAfrican franchises coming into into o fourteen, and he got some criticism inso Africa because he said he said the Blue Bulls or northern, translated oror because those were the team names he he did the one and the TAI lot ofcriticism in some of the son African newspapers about him using the pre e,the APARTI era, names for the for the regions, and then I watched blue. TheBulls are here at the weekend and they were wearing the bloody northerntranslata. Are they yeah anyway? Henrich Watson, absolutely fairhorse great players? Tony Ward, Tony Ward went on to r one thousand ninehundred and eighty like, like actually in tea, refused to go. Didn't he yearesto go rood John Robbie. I think Tony War refused to go. Yeah no AlieCampbell went, but I think Tony War did refuse to Co. Actually Yeah PA o farblades only but yeah. It's I mean it said Africa, it's theultimate cure. I mean people saying he's in se retorted and it is in a waybecause New Zealand and the best team in the world, although not right now soAfrica happened to be but said, Africa is lines chores are defined by towards.I said African. I think I think that a d there were wordchampions in ninety seven. They were world champions in in Oline and Third World Champions intwenty one. I think it's the quint essential line store is a tourist saidAfrica, so I I mean I know the there's acertain amount of ICANNOT around lines tors, but I love the lines I lovewatching them. I think they're magnificent. I think they're there'ssomething of old roby, that we've managed to keep a whole of in this newsparkling era of you know, professionalism and Franchising, andall this kind of stuff that happens in the sport and Line Tours are, you know a bit of a throwback butmagnificent because of it, and I love the idea that you know you spend three years and eleven months cursin tobe Jesus out of Alan Winn Jones or own Pharaoh or whoever and then for onemonth you get to sheer them yeah, trying to remember the words of aJersera Ian thing in there. You know I've never been a huge fentons. I watch the Games every time and yeahI'm very interested in them and as a rule fan and I to be as the fat to youGeneo, I tolt they get that it's great, that all the foreign nations cometogether will make one team o Takata you can cheer for Faro or whoever- and I lit on Otoputo me it just doesn't like looks like all these lands going to aRed Jeres are only short of having the pith helmets and you know they're goingto enter the colonies to shoot up the bloody locals, and you know it's a I was there five years ago and therewas loads of lads wearing those hats good. I won the back of my neck for thewrong reason, like they're, actually very effectives headway. The reason whythey wore them the was a nods of fell as dresses as nepotic and as Lepracaunand with skills, and it's a great festival of Ruby. It's like a World Cupand Bevern is supporting the one team. It actually is great fun, I'm notabsolutely locking it. I'm just saying the gets that heckles on we frequentlymake up for the wrong reasons, and you know I know I to remember so. I forgetin thousand nine hund and eight and the people who went to the people didn't goand not even in either one of them would you know a you know we had. Theyshouldn't have gone previous to that, so by one hound, nine hundred andeighty. You know he had no respect for anybody who went as a teenager in onethousand nine hundred and eighty I had...

...no time for for those that guys goingin there and the other respect of it. Back then, rankled with me was thewhole British lines because it was called the British lines back. Then itwas only very recently. It was my eighty nine meter, but it didn't theytrow, the and Irish in there and still it hasn't it hasn't reached well, sothis day has not a in fairness. The Telegraph hasn'treached. Wales, I rebirths is probably the mosttransform that Spring back team yeah and that's great lot haven't cutagain, having contre Tis at the era of a paratoe Bin, an to a parti andbeen on all those marches and donal that back in the S I I still get kind of goose BOPs. When Ihear when I see black white and colored as they used tobe called back in the day. Yes, I point at that. John is using the said Africanterms, not the or standing on a field, listen to an anthem that encompassesboth traditions. I I pree. It still makes me emotional to watch thatyou know, maybe I'm a bit of a a know whatever, but if you or pipes eratosthanyway, sorry to some Latitat, I just said: If you were a pilot, youfly that seven four seven over Elis Park. I would I would for sure, like I mean Iagree with that, because I mean not only can I was in on those marches, andyou know I had my Renoso Mandela specials seven inch andall this kind of stuff, especially AK, a to be precise, and I voted for him tobe a member of our students union in the collage, but to see to see him in ninety five. It was. It was an amazing moment. ItRima. I think I don't know if people who get in lips through that or did Ifee that era I mean because we didn't live threal Paratis, I mean, let's behonest, we didn't, I mean we lived through the era. We should have some precision. We fenlon who lived for that area andkind of gave a shit about human beings to see as Mandela. At the head of the said, African teamwas just an extraordinary and extraordinary moment a moment that made you believe thatthings. Actually you know that sometimes things can change and thingswill change. I know you see, said Africa and seecalices the captain as the most transform team. I've ever seen and it'sand then the lines are going there and we're taking them on in in what isalways the most iconic of tours. I mean the nine seven or possibly because itwas the first time that they allowed cameras back stage that tour filmliving with the lines is, is the Great Sports Document tertain? For me, it'smy. I think it's the best ports documentary ever and so now still remember like the wordditaine. If only we had a Boebeis better eat, we try to be humblethere J. probably we had a grin in the north of ran currently oranywhere in Ireland. I could bring the could bring everybody into the foldand or an Earl Bohol on. This is a Rugge podcast, let's yeah, unfortunately, the guys he lay withpolitic broad generalization alert. Unfortunately, the guys in NortonIrland, whose name starts with whose first name is Nelson, tend not to bethe unifying kind. That's we need go. We need to put our Sin our northern brothers of welcome to mental in Bets and at an youse've gonnawe got. Can we get back? Can we get? Can we can we leave the lines there andjust have a quick look: a against comus in the Rainbow Caterer continuous, atenuous said African collect it. There are playing in the rainbow in theRainbow Cup. Well, all I can sal is the season is over. We lost a game lastweekend. We've got this stupid, poxy Rainbow Coop thing, but doesn't evenhave the cellaria teams at just you know playing against us, so we'vealready played the pro fourteen final. I find it difficult to get into usiswith about the game against conon. For the week the chance of reange gonerevenge that it's interesting. You...

...should say the the two toes teams havebeen announced for the Ulster Monster match and they're actually not far offboth full strength. Okay, like there's a couple of guysrotated in and the ultra side, I mean, but understandably they're verydisappointed after their season came to an a book out against Lester lastweekend, but they are playing, you know their say their first strength or upthere. It's consider opening back men there to have starters in the in the inthe in the second row like a pretty strongback road they've got Larry and I o a mat in the scrum half they have McCoyand Madison in the center, which you think would be interesting to see.Addison there and stuck the s a full backs like they are kind of monster,certainly gone full board they've. You know because I woods playing yeah yeah, you know burn is planed deline, a manycomes Marie's playing J J, a a half scannel and Gogin and Santer conways,and in Mike Haley and the guys weren't striking around the bench like day, andthey saw they got yeah. So like they've, even one guy, I am looking forward tohis Satano, I mean I know he left some bad times from here, but he stayed verylittle for a monster in the in the past year, but I am interested to see how he'sprogressing just to see if he's progressing. If he's coming on becauseprogression her exactly because I mean I don't know I haven't, he seems heseems to be a bit of a gets injured in warm of snow. I thinkwe there's a couple of lads, unfortunately be enlaced that thathappened to as we they, I think, t come back to our gain. Ihonestly can't figure out what what he want to do. Are we going to just allgons back on the horse or they going to use it as development because thancaster certainly's hinting done? First, I said the PROBATOU and fish for Arlemtors yeah, I mean like. Obviously this going to be lads like sexton are goingto be out, but you know, I'm sure, Ryan and and ring rows are fairly high upthe lines replacement list, so they are coming back from prettylong term. In you know two months injuries they played a game and a half since they've comeback. I'm sure they wanted to get back up to full fitness. Pretty soon, obviously, is talk of the island toursbeing canned. It has the canditate yeah, so the talk of them playing USAand your Canada can possibly Japan, yea APEOO. I mean Japan is here for the lines andthere came up an ember and I think England ere playing Canada, an Indianas a Canaan America, so sumy, that's not that difficult for them to jump ona plane. Can here, I think those guys I mean living asidethe lines anyway. I think those guys a e got a want to play anyway, there'sanother guys who are going to want to try and get last weekend out of theirsystem and the best way to do that is to play robe. Of course, that will bepossible for all of them. Some of them will have to be rested, some of themprobably nursing, naps and stuff. So I say you see blended guys, you see guyslike frale might start some of the guys in the bench will start. I said I, like, I said I'd like to seewho does no ration? Has Their operation and uses it this time that they havethat, regardless of WEDDINERS LINES TORS TOCOMA HEAD ISLAND? A Milan match in Dublin or the remainder of Mingo Cope,does have it. Has Their operations instead of waiting and normally happensfor two months after the season finishes in case they do need to go ona talk and then they end up have an operation in August when they should bedoing their pre season and getting ready for the new season, and theydon't come back until October November. I wish we we just get their operationsdone now. That's my wish by the chicken and awish bone. That's what I would do it's fair as of Jason. Unfortunately,if they have any chance of a line story ere going to this, I go back to, but I'm more sort of talking about the kind of the squad players. I guess Iguess the draw of o o the ont wanted to go online, so I totally get that, but Imean I have to say I'm glad to say just a levy took his chances and said rightwhen a Wat I got a few games back here...

I took have a bit of a bit of a cleanup. Operation needs an I'm on it, going to wait till the summer, I'm going toget it done now and now I'll be raring to go come September. You know, like. Ican't believe Michael bed didn't make the lines store soon as ther other tigers did yeah. Ithink. What's he doing around now, I agree with Jason. I think that there's guys who will needclean up operations and that kind of thing have now have a nice long pre season, and thenthey can be ready to be injure fo Anster. So do we? We do see the reason why wesigned Michael a Alato. Oh, I always saw that reason becauseboth of our starting tight heads have got on a Linster and we'll be seenagain till a week before the argumentations, especially with Michael Ben retiringyeah, but like he was just like for like with Bentian Yeah Yeah, that'swhat he is and arting tithed for the southern himis champions, yeah yeah. Helook a look grade from my bent that sad, but still that's what you know he'sprobably doubling his salary by coming to you could at to be pressure on hitinternal pressure and in his position in New Zealand, because you even dooperate a no. They don't talk about it as muchas they used to. They still operate that protected player system. So forall you know there could be the are the Arblaster Tis. I had prop cube behindhim between she. Isn't there Irish par behind a D, a mix otiose? Did you see Jack Grieg and has signed for the art and yeah? I don't think he's going toget too much Harlan in there yeah. No HE'S S good good! Good move from it isyeah. I mean he's getting he's inching backtowards Ireland. You know what I mean like he's, quattuor he's getting thin, I mean, like you, look at youlook at born on was you know, delivering pizzas and he took hischance. Went over to Wales- and I don't know maybe say six years later- he'sgone on line, store, yeah and look at the previde of thechat, obviously is got a athletic blood running through his veins in adifferent code, but you know he was so academy and less rubely andthen did three years on the Ostra Academy didn't get kept up, maybe alittle bit like, as you say, tight brand didn't get kept on after fouryears and a nice recondo. This is a chance to make good an a Loran. He isfriend and under mice. Roto were better yep. There are there are. There aremany paths to the top he's a big glad to he's six six and youknow built kind of so you know who knows who knows whatthis could lead to? Are we starting? Are we starting the the Jack Regan Backto Lanter Bandwagon? Seen as we all grievously missed the tale? Barnman, absolutely JE president get in there maybe heard it her first that yeah away boys as ever thanks a millionthanks man for watching. If you are fining face book twitter or you tube,please give us a like description and thumbs up thanks again, Chers.

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